New Discovery: Fragment of the "Attoliad"
Apr. 3rd, 2010 08:42 pmSo while I have been delaying thoughts of how to choose for next fall (and beyond) what will make me satisfied, happy, and successful, I've been thinking about Homeric hexameters & the Queen's Thief books.
It started a while ago, actually, when I realized that "Eugenides" and "Atreides" are homometric, and mentally started hearing "Εὐγενίδης τε ἄναξ ἀνδρῶν..." instead of "Ἀτρεΐδης τε ἄναξ ἀνδρῶν καὶ δῖος Ἀχιλλεύς" (Iliad 1.7). I've been trying to fill in the line for a while, and have finally (in light of CoK) produced a 3-line mini catalog of monarchs from the Megan Whaler Turner books that may be slightly spoilery for A Conspiracy of Kings. I think that the meter all works (while it takes advantage of weak position rather egregiously on occasion), and I *think* I even have the accents in the right places.
I was trying to work out an epithet phrase along the lines of "left-handed swordsman," but I was having to do some really dubious contractions. Maybe I will discover more fragments of this, someday, and it will appear there!
ETA 9/4/10: minor revision of the translation, thanks to
anna_wing
It started a while ago, actually, when I realized that "Eugenides" and "Atreides" are homometric, and mentally started hearing "Εὐγενίδης τε ἄναξ ἀνδρῶν..." instead of "Ἀτρεΐδης τε ἄναξ ἀνδρῶν καὶ δῖος Ἀχιλλεύς" (Iliad 1.7). I've been trying to fill in the line for a while, and have finally (in light of CoK) produced a 3-line mini catalog of monarchs from the Megan Whaler Turner books that may be slightly spoilery for A Conspiracy of Kings. I think that the meter all works (while it takes advantage of weak position rather egregiously on occasion), and I *think* I even have the accents in the right places.
τόξαρχος Σοφὸς ἠδ᾽ Ἔδδεως πότνι᾽ οὐρεγενεῖα
Ἀττολιδῶν τε χρυσομίτρη δεσποῖνα φαλάγγων
Εὐγενίδης τε ἄναξ ἀνδρῶν ἑνὶ χειρὶ κρατύνων
[...there were present]
the master-shooter Sophos and the queen of Eddis, born among mountains;
the Attolians' gold-diademed mistress of battle lines,
and Eugenides, the lord of men, holding sway with one hand.
I was trying to work out an epithet phrase along the lines of "left-handed swordsman," but I was having to do some really dubious contractions. Maybe I will discover more fragments of this, someday, and it will appear there!
ETA 9/4/10: minor revision of the translation, thanks to
no subject
Date: 2010-04-04 04:55 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-04-04 05:19 am (UTC)*is in awe*
no subject
Date: 2010-04-04 05:36 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-04-04 05:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-04-04 03:20 pm (UTC)IS
BRILLIANT!
no subject
Date: 2010-04-04 06:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-04-04 07:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-04-08 11:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-04-09 04:35 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-04-05 12:09 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-04-05 02:37 am (UTC)what
wow
*will run this by her friend who also reads Greek*
no subject
Date: 2010-04-08 11:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-04-09 11:24 am (UTC)I'm not qualified to comment on the Greek, but for the English translation, how about:
"gold-diademed mistress of battle lines" - "diadem" being the actual term for the relevant piece of headgear and reinforcing the Hellenic flavour; and
"...holding sway one-handed" - "holding sway with one hand" somehow made me think of strap-hanging on the Underground.
no subject
Date: 2010-04-09 09:00 pm (UTC)As far as one-handed vs. with one hand: I actually have the opposite feeling (one-handed seems more like what I'd say about hanging onto something). Also: the trochees of "holding sway one handed" don't sound nice to me.
Thanks for the suggestions!
no subject
Date: 2010-04-14 07:29 pm (UTC)Can anything be better than the "Attoliad???"
no subject
Date: 2011-02-20 09:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-02-21 12:50 am (UTC)Ah ha! And now that I've chanted the opening seven lines (which is all I ever memorized -- "Μῆνιν ἄειδε ... δῖος Ἀχιλλεύς"), I see what else besides the third line of this fragment reminded me so strongly of Ἴλιας:
Ἀττολιδῶν τε
Ἀτρεΐδης τε
majQa'!
no subject
Date: 2011-02-21 02:01 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-02-23 07:18 pm (UTC)This is so totally awesome!